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Anthony Nielson’s 1991 play “Normal” makes its West coast debut this week.
The Vagrancy theatre company based in Hollywood has 5 performances lined up of the captivating play. This psychological thriller follows the story of a serial killer and his lawyer, and explores morality through a steady mixture of terror and and humor. The Knockturnal had the opportunity to talk to the show’s director, David Mancini, and the show’s star, Arthur Keng, about their thoughts on the story and how they hope it affects audiences.
What initially drew you to get involved in this project?
David: The themes and the subject matter of this text are incredibly relevant to what is happening in the world today both socially and politically. Having a chance, as an artist, to make an immediate piece of theatre is always attractive to me. Also, a chance to work with the wonderful artists at the Vagrancy is hard to pass up.
With its theme of evil in society, where do you feel the relevance of this story lies in today’s political climate?
David: I think the idea of how we qualify evil is incredibly relevant with our political climate. In the last year, we have had to redefine the morals of our society on an almost constant basis. We have had to judge whether or not words can incite violence? Whether it is morally okay to assault someone who would espouses your death and destruction? Whether aggression against minorities groups is the not only acceptable but favorable in leaders? Whether we have created a society where all this is possible or if this is an anomaly? And whether we are better off for this ultra violent view of the world? Aggressors claim victim status while calling the true victims names. People laugh and support what, just a decade before would have been considered career ending and morally bankrupt.
“Normal” is unique in its use of occasional humor to tackle such a dark story. How did you find a balance as a director between the goofiness and blatant terror?
David: Humor is an important part of aggression and releasing aggression. Anger is funny, especially when it has a clear point of view. Lewis Black is a great example of this. The humor in this play lends itself to the terror very well. True terror lives on a cliff’s edge between excitement and fear. The humor helps walk the audience to edge and leaves them there, asking themselves whether they would jump or not. The scariest things are attached to the things you love, that bring joy and release as humor does. A fear of airplanes is really only terrifying when mixed with a love of travel. Domestic violence is terrifying because the victim has deep love for the aggressor. Humor is a way in which we can let out our darkest thoughts safely, with out the attached violence, It becomes terror when someone acts upon these thoughts. The balance between terror and humor is inherent in their basic relationship.
How do you hope audience members will react to this show?
David: Initially, I hope they like it and are entertained. In the long run, I hope the show will make them think, about themselves and the society they live in. I hope the themes and imagery stays with them and festers in their brain until they have to take action to answer the deep and personal questions in the play. I set moments up in the play that I hope hit the audience later in the evening where they find they are asking themselves why did I laugh at that? Why didn’t I help her? Did I dictate my path or was it someone else’s design? Why do I go about my life as I do?
Would you say you’re a fan of psychological thrillers or did this story force you to step out of your comfort zone?
Arthur: I’d say ‘Yes’ to both. I do enjoy a good psychological thriller and it’s been fun to explore this one. As for whether it made me uncomfortable, I hope to find something in every role that forces me into some kind of discomfort since that’s what makes it interesting and engaging as an actor. It definitely wasn’t too hard to find that with Justus. His journey is one of a lamb becoming a wolf, and that’s a gut-wrenching ordeal, which I had to find for myself throughout the process.
What drew you to this project and what was the process like preparing for a role in such a dark story?
Arthur: The arc of Justus’ journey is so severe, you don’t get that in a lot of plays, so the prospect of riding that roller coaster was super exciting. Knowing Dave, Steve, and Carolyn were going to be involved was also a huge reason I joined, as I had heard great things about Dave and had yet to share any scenes with Steve and Carolyn in previous shows but had always wanted to.
I didn’t approach this show and character much differently than I would any other. It’s always a process of finding and experimenting with motivations and character history. People are capable of great and horrible things, as this show demonstrates, but both good and bad actions are driven by desires and needs, and that’s what I focused on finding for myself.
You play Kurten’s defense attorney who goes through great lengths to defend evil, how did you interpret the moral ambiguity of this character?
Arthur: It’s interesting, I never really saw it as defending evil. Justus is disgusted by Kurten’s crimes and, early in the play, his argument is that ‘Good’ should strive to convert ‘Evil’ in order to prove itself truly superior. I think this is very much a story of awakening to one interpretation of the nature of humanity and how that can be completely overwhelming and make one lose control of oneself. I’ve never really felt any ambiguity in playing the character since that suggests to me a level of reflection and deliberation that I don’t think Justus gets a chance to do once he meets Kurten.
What do you hope viewers will take away from this show?
Arthur: As with most Vagrancy shows, the hope is that the audience leaves at least a little bit shaken, but in a good way. It’s a freight train of a show and I think we’ve done our job if, at the end of the night, the audience feels like they’ve either ridden that train or been hit by it.
Normal features Arthur Keng, Steve Madar, & Carolyn Deskin and will be performing at the Lounge Theatre:
TUESDAY, JUNE 13th @ 8PM
SUNDAY, JUNE 18th @ 8PM
SATURDAY, JUNE 24th @ 8PM