The hit Disney musical, Frozen, welcomed Ryan McCartan to the show on February 18, 2020, as he took over the role from Joe Carroll. McCarten, who plays Prince Hans, the charming yet power-hungry love interest, is no stranger to the stage.
He made his Broadway debut playing Fiyero in Wicked, in September of 2018, where he remained until May of 2019. Ryan was kind enough to take time out of his day to chat with The Knockturnal about what itβs like to be a part of Frozen the Musical and to offer advice for how to gain success as an artist.Β
The Knockturnal: Can you tell me the story of how you got into acting?Β
Ryan McCartan: So, my father is an educator and my mother works in retail. My sister came out of the womb singing and dancing and, to make a very long story short, I wanted to play sports but I got diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes. A lot of diabetics can make it work, but for some reason, my body was just not having it. And so my parents were like, βOk, we hear you, but you have to do something with your time.β And I was like, βplaying video games in my room doesnβt count!?β I looked over at what my sister was doing– she was into theater and dancing and singing– and I thought that looked cool. And there was one day when she was singing βSomewhere Over the Rainbowβ in the car and I started singing too, and my parents were like, βOh he can sing too, oh my god we got two of βem!β
Β The Knockturnal: Do your parents have good voices?
Ryan McCartan: My dad did theater in high school, and I think he sang in choir for a little in college, but my mom will not sing. I was born and raised in an Irish-Catholic household. Weβd go to church and she wouldnβt even sing there. She would say, βGod knows that Iβm reading the words and that is enough!β So anyway, my sister is the reason that I do everything I do and sheβs been a massive source of inspiration to me my whole life. She actually lives in New York now where sheβs one of my best friends. Sheβs one of the most important presences in my life, for sure.
The Knockturnal: What drew you to the role of Hans in Frozen?
Ryan McCartan: I think that Iβm a nice person. I donβt think that Iβm evil, but maybe I am, because I get cast in this type of role all the time. I call it the bait-and-switch bad guy. Iβve done it on TV, Iβve done it in movies, Iβve done it in theater, where Iβm always the good guy at the beginning and then at the endβ¦
The Knockturnal: You were so convincing last night in the show. My sister and I were trying to remember if your character was actually bad or not and we couldnβt remember.
Ryan McCartan: Thatβs so funny. Maybe itβs because itβs on stage. Iβm not entirely sure what it is, but Michael Grandage, the director has talked with me about this idea that even if the audience has seen the movie a million times, they forget that Hans is ultimately a villain. And Michael was like, βI want you to convince the audience that weβve changed the ending.β And so yeah, I donβt know why Iβm good at it, but Iβm good at it I guess.Β
The Knockturnal: Thatβs a nice niche skill to have.Β
Ryan McCartan: I suppose. I go out to the signing line and the kids donβt trust me, and Iβm like, βIβm nice in real life, I promise!β Itβs weird but itβs a really fun thing to get to do. I was saying before, I get to check two things off my list. I get to be a Disney prince and a Disney villain on the same night, which is pretty amazing. Iβm enjoying that.Β
The Knockturnal: Whatβs been the most difficult part for you about playing the role of Hans?Β
Ryan McCartan: Rob Ashford, our choreographer, put together this splendid dance break in the song, βLove is an Open Door,β to spruce it up and make it more alive on stage. And I can move, but Iβm not a dancer, dancer. I mean, we have some of the best dancers on Broadway in our ensemble, and what they do with their bodies is unbelievable, and Iβm not that. So youβve seen the number: Itβs all of these complicated turns and lifts, behind the back, over the shoulder, up in the air, firemanβs carry, all of these different things. And the dress that Anna wears is thirty pounds, and itβs huge. Itβs very voluminous and so you know, you’re batting it out of your face and, at the same time, you’re trying to figure out, βwhere are her legs?!β and βwhere are her knees?β You have to find these contact points in order to hoist her up in the air safely. I mean this is the star of our show! Iβm not going to be responsible for Anna falling on her face. So you have to be very meticulous and very strong. It was a lot of strengthening and practice, and that was definitely the hardest part for me.Β
The Knockturnal: In your experience, is the choreography usually the hardest part of preparing for a show?Β
Ryan McCartan:Β Itβs different for every show. With Frozen, it was that number. Because for me, as a performer in theater, what Iβm thinking about is that everything needs to be repeatable. I need to do a scene and know in my mind that I can do this 8 times a week. Whether something goes terribly wrong or whether Iβm nailing it that night,Β I have to be able to do it no matter what. And for a very long time, βLove is an Open Doorβ did not feel repeatable. I was hoisting Anna up, thinking βI have no idea how I got her up there.β Sometimes I could barely lift her off the ground. And, like I said, we have some of the best leadership, from Rob Ashford all the way down through the associates and the dance captains. We have so many people on our side. So I donβt want to paint the picture that I was stranded out there by any means, but it was just about the practice and getting the reps in.Β
The Knockturnal: Are you and your cast-mates all close in real life? How did those relationships form?
Ryan McCartan: Well it was really cool. So Mackenzie who plays Anna, and I, and Andrew Pirozzi, who plays Sven the reindeer, went to the Junior Theater Festival in Atlanta as representatives of Frozen and we just bonded instantly. It was like summer camp, just one of those magical weekends. Mackenzie and I stayed up really late just talking one night, and Andrew and I were just walking around, chatting and getting to know each other, knowing weβd all be close when the weekend was over. And then Cierra, who plays Elsa, came in and sheβs so sweet and talented and smart, and so it really felt too good to be true. I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop!Β Β
The Knockturnal: Does that not usually happen?
Ryan McCartan: You know, itβs a lot of people in the same space, for a long time. And so people often tend to mind their own business. And with this show, it just feels like everyone is with you, every single person. Itβs an extremely unique experience. And I think you can really feel that in the audience and we can feel it onstage.Β
The Knockturnal: Do you have any words of advice for those wanting to pursue a career in acting?Β
Ryan McCartan: I think that itβs such a competitive industry, and a lot of people are vying for these spots. And I think thatβs good, but what often happens in an industry that is competitive is that you begin to look at your competition and size them up, and go, βOkay this person is doing x, y, and z and they’re booking a lot of jobs so I should copy them.β I believe that is the death of artistry. I think the most important thing that you can do, especially because of how broad the spectrum of your competition is, is to dive into what makes you most unique. A mentor once told me, βEveryone can do everything that you canβt do, but no one can do everything that you can do. So you have to fixate on what you can do. Never apologize for it and go boldly in that direction.β I think people who do that stand out the most, in any artist medium. I mean you think about the Billie Eilishβs of the world. She never apologizes for exactly what she is and she is so unique. And if that works in music, thatβs gonna work in movies and onstage as well.
The Knockturnal: What do you prefer, acting on stage or on-screen?Β
Ryan McCartan: The two are such different experiences because when you’re onstage you turn and you look out and see 2,000 people watching you.Β
The Knockturnal: How does that feel when you’re up there?
Ryan McCartan: Oh my god, I mean it hits me every time. My character first enters the stage when the gates of Arendelle open, so in my first entrance, I go through these huge doors and I walk straight down-stage towards the audience. My direction it to be looking at Arendelle and the castle, but what Iβm actually looking at is all the people. And the St. James Theater is tall, so you’re looking up and into balconies filled with people and itβs a wonder unlike anything that you could ever experience. With film, the camera is right in your face, thereβs a sound guy right next to you, and so itβs the polar opposite. In theater, you’re filling up this grand room with all of these people, and in film itβs completely contained and thereβs something really exhilarating about that too. In one you are shouting into the expanse, and in one itβs like you’re dueling with the barrel of the gun. And thereβs an intensity to both of those things, so I canβt really pick one because they feel like such opposites.Β
The Knockturnal: Do you still get nervous before shows?
Ryan McCartan: Oh absolutely. I mean the thing that I try to think about though, is that the physiological symptoms of feeling nervous are the exact same as the physiological symptoms of feeling excited. Butterflies in your stomach, that frenetic energy, itβs all the same. So I try to tell myself, βNo, you’re not nervous, you’re just really excited! And you care!β If you’re nervous, that means you care. And you know,Β I don’t ever want to get rid of that feeling. I donβt ever want to be at the point where acting in one of the best theaters in the world just feels blasΓ© because that would be sad.