If you are lucky enough to experience the spoils Los Angeles has to offer, it can be quite charmingโโbright, friendly, perpetually chillax.
The sun always shines. There are beaches everywhere. The tacos are unfailingly delicious, and when you are watching a dwindling sunset dip over the Santa Monica Mountains, itโs hard to imagine that life can get much better. You feel a windless vibration in the air, a sense of boundless calm, something that powerhouse-duo Social House calls โpositive vibes.โ
Ever since their move from Pittsburgh, PA to Sherman Oaks, a mellow enclave in the torrid hills of Los Angelesโ valley, spreading these โvibesโ has sort of been their M.O. Whether it is producing Ariana Grandeโs empowering feminist anthems, embracing fans with hugs and awkward smiles, or helping save the earth one vegan meal at a time, Michael โMikeyโ Foster and Charles โScootieโ Andersonโs approach to life is immensely likable. Instead of taking a surgical knife to the culture, Social House would much rather help their listeners build new neural pathways to feel happiness and optimism in a tumultuous time where negativity and nihilism seem to be the default position for many.
Itโs steeped in an ethos that is incredibly amenable and untroubled, much like the kind of agreeable L.A. weather they find to be so motivating: โI feel like thereโs something so energizing about West Coast sunshine and being outside,โ Mikey shared with me, โNo bashing or anythingโโbut thereโs a lot of music that kind of has a very down vibe, very chill vibe. We just want to add a little bit of light, a little bit of positivity.โ While they feel that โall of it is very necessary,โ the DAMN.s, the โThis is America,โsโโthey want to provide the people sonic comfort food to combat our generationโs overwhelming feelings of anxiety: โYou gotta have those moments where you just take a second a say, โYou know what, Iโm happy and all is ok.โ
When it comes to producing, Mikey and Scootie have a very similar approach. The hunt for that right drum pattern or ambient layer leads them both on creative binges where they will do anything and everything except musicโโa quest for aesthetic gold so to speak. Sometimes, sketching might be the medium to find that perfect synth sound. On another day, the search for inspiration could involve clothing design. Itโs so random and spectacular that it makes you think of them more as a new-age auteur than solely musicians. โIt helps you express yourself through another means, and then when you come back to the music, you have a new perspective,” said Scootie of their artistic benders, โYou feel refreshed and ready to tackle the studio again.โ
The entertainment industry can definitely breed a type of conceit more revolting than a cockroach crawling up your arm. Despite its natural beauty and rich offerings, Los Angeles is a de facto capital of this kind of disgusting vanity, a reason why many never drop their anchor wholeheartedly in this schmoozy, smoggy city polluted with obnoxious misanthropes and wannabe actors. Perhaps we need more artists like Social House who lack the pretension that seems to ooze out of celebrity culture like fetid puss. Perhaps Mikey and Scootie are the coolest, most down-to-earth dudes I have ever had the pleasure of speaking with. Go check out my interview below where we talked about all-nighters at the studio, their musical process, and what being a vegan is really all about.
The Knockturnal: Youโre both vegans. How has being vegan influenced your music and life?
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: I feel like it kind of made us live a little bit better for ourselves in a sense.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Once you start taking care of your body, you start realizing everything else you donโt take care of.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson:ย Exactly.ย
The Knockturnal: Do your experiences in Pittsburgh play a role in your larger journey as artists?ย
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Absolutely. I think it all counts. It all adds up.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson:ย Everything up to now has built me.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: If you think about all the relationships you had, all the stuff you were taught from your peers, absorbed from school and those experiences, all those things carry weight we donโt even realize. Even Pittsburgh culture has affected us musically. A lot of Pittsburgh families are very family-oriented and very structured, and their main goals are to provide stability and a home for a family they really, really loveโโthereโs that grounding for that. I know with a lot of other places, especially with New York, itโs about big dreams for personal goals, personal worth and values, and so it has a drive to it. But the family-orientation makes you love and cherish friendship. Itโs those values from back home that you hear in our music. ย
The Knockturnal: Funny enough, my Dad grew up all around the city: in Carnarsie, Queens. Eventually, he decided to move out to California because he thought it would be a better place to raise a family, to settle down. You guys made that move as well. What about California attracted you, and what have your experiences been like on the West Coast? Do you miss home at all and those family-oriented values you spoke of earlier?
Charles โScootieโ Anderson:ย I feel like there are pieces that we miss.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Personally, I love the weather and sunny days in LA. I feel like thereโs something so energizing about West Coast sunshine and being outside. Say, Iโm on a rooftop and working in that kind of environment, like, thatโs beautiful. So it makes you stay in that place, and if I like that vibe, I can keep on working, working, working all day. But other places you get different life experiencesโโyou get to go through your ups and downs.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson:ย Sometimes you need those rainy days. You start to miss those when every day is perfect.
The Knockturnal: You guys have such a positive energy. Your logo, your music, your overall aesthetic feels very West-Coast inspired. Are you trying to channel the natural warmth and friendliness of California in your music?
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: I feel like that comes from our optimism.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: It took a lot to get here. Now, all we kind of want to do is remember that worked really hard. So to enjoy it a little bit more during this time and help people have a little bit more fun, because, you know, nothing about todayโs musicโโno bashing or anythingโโbut thereโs a lot of music that kind of has a very down vibe, very chill vibe. We just want to add a little bit of light, a little bit of positivity. Thereโs that balance: you might have those darker thoughts, but we also want to have those happy thoughts too. All of it is very necessary, but also, when you are having a good time with your friends, or need to feel good about yourself, you need music for that too. You gotta have those moments where you just take a second a say, โYou know what, Iโm happy and all is ok.โ
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: Because thatโs what going on literally when we are making our music. We are just having fun with our friends.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: If you think about it, we produce and write as well, so we work all day. Hopefully, people get to hear those good times we have and our drive to spread positivity in the music.
The Knockturnal: Where else do you look for inspiration, whether thatโs film, art, or fashion?
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: Everything. I feel like we would be better classified as โcreativesโ rather than โartistsโ or โmusicians.โ We just, like, are throwing paint, you know, just throwing stuff, our experiences and lives at the wall.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Itโs almost, like, if youโre walking into an art gallery that was curated by a completely different company every weekโฆour palettes are changing all the time. One day, we will be listening to Bob Marley, and the other, jazz, and maybe next week itโll be symphony music. So itโs very eclectic, but you know, one of our best friends is Ariana [Grande], so we love pop too and are constantly dipping our toes in different sounds and feels.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: You never know where you are going to pull that inspiration from.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Iโm sure you havenโt listened to one genre of music and thatโs it. No one has one playlist.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson:ย Our generation has the freedom to be different, and that didnโt exist as much in the past. Itโs nice that we can all intermingle and do whatever we want.
The Knockturnal: Social House was born on your guysโ indelible chemistry. Tell me about that exact moment when you both decided to join forces and become a powerhouse duo. ย
Charles โScootieโ Anderson:ย We were living in our โsocial house.โ This was before we were called Social House.
The Knockturnal: Where was that at by the way?
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: It was in Sherman Oaks.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: It was a nice spot up in the hills with this view that was so crazy. We would wake up and go on the balcony. Like the studio was next to it, so we would get off and enjoy this insane view. I donโt know why that was important, but it was special.
The Knockturnal: Well, you can get inspiration from nature and its beauty. Maybe thatโs why it felt so integral to your process.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Totally. It was definitely inspiring.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: I remember it was 11 or 12 oโclock. All of our friends had gone bowling or something, and we were sitting in the house and were like, โYo, letโs just make a song that we like, that we want to hear.โ We had just finished working with a bunch of other artists.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: We wanted to produce something we didnโt have to show anybody, to present to a label or anything. Letโs just make something we want to hear, right now.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: So, we made our first song together and after that it was, like, we should do this. We both looked at each other and said: โWe canโt show this to nobody because they are going to want to sell it.โ And that lasted for about two, three hours. We showed our friend and said โYo, listen to this.โ and to our surprise, his eyes were big as hell. He was like, โYo, we should be a group!โ
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: He walked over and brought a whiteboard out, a huge whiteboard. It had to be the biggest white board Iโd ever seen in my life and wrote up all big on it โSocial House.โ It was actually the name of our wifi at the house, so like, it came naturally. In that moment, we just started working towards this idea and writing songs. Every time we come up with something, we put it on the list. It was something we wanted to keep for ourselves.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: Ayyyy!
The Knockturnal: Run me through a typical session. Does the collaboration happen mostly in the studio?
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: Itโs random as hell.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Occasionally, we will sit down in a studio and be there to make a certain song. Or we will be outside and start humming something as a voice memo and build it from there together.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: Iโm gonna drop a gem: โMagic in the Hamptonsโ was recorded in a bedroom closet.
The Knockturnal: Are you serious? Thatโs crazy.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Yeah, man. We have a house with a bunch of studios in it.
The Knockturnal: So you repurposed the closet to be a mini-studio?
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: We have the bigger studios that are really built-out, and then we also have other production spaces. But we were, like, โNah, we donโt need that right now. Letโs just make some stuff and have a good time. โMagic in The Hamptonsโ was made after a nightโs work. We just wanted to make something fun even if it wasnโt going to be heard everโฆbut it doesnโt tell the whole story though. It doesnโt tell the rest of our ideas, so we are excited for our story to unfold and start lifting those layers back.
The Knockturnal: I’m hyped about your upcoming release. What should we expect?
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: We happen to make things that donโt sound similar. But we donโt set out to make different types of sounds.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: Itโs different, but cohesive at the same time.ย ย
Michael โMikeyโ Foster:ย We are aiming for an October release, but we will see what happens! We are so excited for our fans to hear our eclectic vibes.
The Knockturnal: That brings me to my next question.ย Thereโs many amazing things going on in music right now, especially in pop. But sometimes, I feel like a lot of what makes the Billboard 100 all sounds incredibly homogeneous. Do you guys ever feel a certain pressure to break the mold, to venture into new sonic territories?ย
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: I think both, honestly.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Obviously, you donโt want to sound the same as everyone else. Say if I happen to be making a beat and I happen to play a note that Iโm like, โoh, this is similar to this person. I might change that so I donโt want to be like anybody,โ but I donโt set out to be different than anybody else, or this rapper, or this singer.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: Thatโs exactly it. If you sound like someone else, thatโs your starting point. You just have to experiment and find yourself. It’s a constant process, you know.
The Knockturnal: I know that producing, especially under deadlines, can be brutally stressful. How do you get through those creative blocks, those late-nighters that are just utterly soul-destroying?ย
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: We do everything, but music. Maybe like a month ago, we woke up and are sitting down, and I donโt know why, but we looked at each other and said, โLetโs just make some shirts.โ So we bought sewing machines. We went to the store and bought fabric markers and paints and watched YouTube tutorials and just started creating. It helps you express yourself through another means, and then when you come back to the music, you have a new perspective. You feel refreshed and ready to tackle the studio again.
Michael โMikeyโ Foster: Yeah. If you donโt know how it say it through music, say it somewhere else. Creativity always breeds creativity. Just seeing different things and doing something different with your hands, your motions, body, mindโโit always changes you. I think it was Miguel that had an interview, and he was talking about his writing routine, and said something towards the extent of โthere was some living to be done before I wrote more music.โ I think that alone sort of sums it up.
Charles โScootieโ Anderson: You write from your experiences. Thatโs where the greatest music comes from.